Posts by Indian Larry

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Need Advice. Quick.

by AwSnap in

i apologize for being absent for so long.

i've got a jw at my house right now (unexpectedly) who is talking to my husband.

he keeps on bringing up that only jw's have universal love....that if you go anywhere in the world, you can mention you're a witness & you'll automatically be welcomed and accepted by fellow jw's.

Tell the JW that choice of religion in a serious matter. Tell him you have read on the internet accusations that the JW's are a high control group. Tell him you certainly don't believe everything you read on the net, however since it is such a crucial matter to your familys sprituality you wonder if he might come back another night (after giving you some time to research) and at least answer any 10 questions you might have about his group. If he has the truth he should not be worried about questions. If he does not or if it is a cult that won't let him think for himself it will be a problem. Tell your husband to make the guy ask the questions.

I don't buy a car without looking to consumer reports to see the reliablity records. I have interviewed every teacher that my daughter has ever used. I interviewed (and dismissed) potential doctors for my daughter. I read reviews of books before I buy on Amazon.com. There is no way I would ever talk to anyone about religion again without knowing more about what they believe then they do before the conversation ever started. The JW's will NOT want someone who actually follows the example of the Boreans.

The real problem is that many many witnesses are actually truly very nice people. The guy at your house right now may be a nice person. He may be actually living his life as a Christian. But doctrine does matter. Truth matters. The truth of the matter is that the ORG is like a dead fish, it stinks from the head. I really don't have a problem with most of the witnesses I know, they are nice people. If the GB would allow them to contribute to the Salvation Army, or the Red Cross they would do it in a second. They would love to help elderly people, to help in any kind of volunteer work (ie. soup kitchens, shelters, habitat for humanity) but they are not allowed. Their form of "giving" is going door to door. It really is too bad. It is sad. It is maddening.

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Maybe this is a way to get a Witness to use CRITICAL THINKING ?

by raymond frantz in

i have been trying recently different ways to get fellow witnesses to use their thinking faculties ,one that seems to work is the following :.

"would you believe in the trinity if the governing body told you to ?

because it is not in the bible .

Indian Larry

I think that is an excellent point. I will be using it. Thanks!

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Need Advice. Quick.

by AwSnap in

i apologize for being absent for so long.

i've got a jw at my house right now (unexpectedly) who is talking to my husband.

he keeps on bringing up that only jw's have universal love....that if you go anywhere in the world, you can mention you're a witness & you'll automatically be welcomed and accepted by fellow jw's.

Indian Larry

The Mormons take care of thier elderly financially. JW's, not so much. JW's show love to people that are new to the congregation and who are studying. Some congregations are warmer than others. Some actually are very loving, others are cold as ice. None of them are loving at all if you don't agree that the GB is God's sole channel of communication to all mankind. If you research the background of their teachings and have a honest disagreement based on FACTS, try bringing that up and find out how loved you really are.

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Wake up Reading list

by perfect1 in

jw
friends

hey everyone:.

i was wondering what books you read that helped you wake up from the wt hypnosis.

i havent read all that many myself- but i know coc is supposed to be a good one.. thanks!.

Indian Larry

Crisis of Conscience

Captives of a Concept

and to me the best one of all - In Search of Christian Freedom

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Jehovah's Witnesses, the government and MONEY....

by chapstick in

jw
friends

monday, october 22, 2012raleigh city council votes in secret to give jehovahs witnesses $150,000posted by will huntsberry@willhuntsberry on mon, oct 22, 2012 at 1:07 pmits typical for two affable jehovahs witnesses in oversized business suits to make the neighborhood rounds, knocking on doors.

but what about when the whole organization comes knocking at city hall?.

earlier this month, the raleigh city council voted behind closed to doors to give the jehovahs witnesses $150,000 to hold their annual convention in the pnc arena next year.

Indian Larry

Does anyone know how much RBC arena cost to rent for the weekend? That would be good to know.

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Whitney Heichels Murderer Was a "Brother"

by daringhart13 in

the girl killed in oregon....found murdered......was killed by a 'brother' in her congregation.. its all hitting the fan in gresham, oregon.

i really hope this wasn't an affair gone bad.

they went to the same congregation and lived in the same apartment complex.. yep.....spiritual paradise.. not going to lie...........i'm filled with rage right now..

Indian Larry

Cyruse> Holt definintley was a JW in 2010 when he got married. There is a link to his wedding photos in the comments section of the newspaper article. He was married in a Kingdom Hall. That means at the VERY MINIMUM he was in good standing as an active Jehovah's Witness in 2010. What has happened in the two years since I do not know. He may have been reproved, DF'd or made a servant. I do not want to speculate on things which are not facts. However it is a FACT that he was a witness in 2010. I also assume that since he was a Witness he also attended the same hall as Whitney since they lived in the same territory.

http://www.imagecross.com/d/image-hosting-view-00.php?id=1323jonathan-holt-wedding-inside-kingdom-hall.jpg

http://www.imagecross.com/d/image-hosting-view-00.php?id=7184jonathan-holt-wedding-in-front-of-kingdom-hall-gresham.jpg

http://www.imagecross.com/d/image-hosting-view-00.php?id=7385jonathan-holt-wedding04.jpg

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WTBS INC Annual meeting i.e. food for thoughts.

by MacHislopp in

following recent posts, articles, blogs (thanks cedar and others for their excellent work) i would like to contribute something, to show the hypocrisy and the constant doctrinal changes of the society.. .

to begin:.

qualified to be ministers (1955) p.156 par.

Indian Larry

MARKING

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The Watchtower Attempts to Eliminate Discrepancies in Authority

by Emery in

i began pondering about the reasons why this new light was made and have come to a few theories that may be plausible.

my conclusion is that the society is hell bent on eliminating the discrepancies to their authority.. .

the ancient lineage of the faithful and discreet slave - eliminated.

Indian Larry

King Solomon - You truley are wise. That is an excellent point.

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Most solid evidence I've seen linking WT to Mason, somebody try to debunk this lol

by EndofMysteries in

what is in the background?????.

now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.

from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.

Indian Larry

You know I have no love for the superfine apostles up there in Brooklyn, but this photo alone does not prove masonic ties. The building in the background is a masonic center, however it was built AFTER Russell was buried under his pyramid. If you could find proof that the Mason's owned the cemetary in the past or that it is a primarily Masonic cemetary ie. most other graves circa 1916 were masonic members that might help. The Pyramid itself is wrong there is no doubt about that but the center in the background is only damning if there is a direct tie to it from the WTBTS. Otherwise anybody could have built on that property. If the democratic national commitee built headquarters there that does not mean that Russell was a democrat unless he donated them the land.

However that does not prove that Russell was not a Mason either. I guess it is curios but no definitive one way or the other without more information.

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New Light brings new questions

by Indian Larry in

according to cedars blog:.

"the events described in matthew 24:46,47 now refer to jesus coming during the great tribulation and giving the governing body their reward in heaven along with the rest of the anointed.".

if this is true then how can they separate v.45 from v.46&47.

Indian Larry

According to Cedars blog:

"The events described in Matthew 24:46,47 now refer to Jesus coming during the Great Tribulation and giving the Governing Body their reward in heaven along with the rest of the anointed."

If this is true then how can they separate v.45 from v.46&47. The scripture says the "the master on arriving" will appoint him. However that is ONLY if he is faithful. The parallel scripture in Luke 12:47-51 make it clear that the slave can either be faithful or NOT depending on his actions. Whether the slave is faithful or not is decided upon by Christ when he comes during the Great Tribulation.

What reasoning do they use to separate the identification of the FDS with its reward coming (at a minimum) almost 100 years later?